GOP dead? Maybe, but not conservatism

Not sure if anyone caught the little tidbit from South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint about the recent presidential campaign.

He was the first major player on the right to blast McCain on his center-left stance on many issues and reasoned that McCain’s lack of commitment to conservative principals left many Republicans and conservatives less than enthusiastic about their nominee.

DeMint talked specifically about McCain’s shortcomings including the senator’s championing of campaign finance reform, his proposal for amnesty for illegals, his support of cap and trade programs for global warming and his support of the $700 billion economic bailout. 

I could not agree more wholeheartedly with Mr. DeMint. Again, while I grew to admire McCain more than I thought possible throughout the election for his doggedness, resolve and his steadfastness on certain issues like defense and abortion, the choice of McCain was overall disheartening and never gave conservatives a voice in the election.

I don’t know about you but when I read time and again that the Republican party is dead and the GOP is finished, I don’t really care. My principals in and of themselves fly in the face of party loyalty.

I don’t care what party a candidate is from. I just want a conservative candidate to represent me. Someone who understands that party affiliations don’t matter. A candidate that realizes that reaching across the aisle is not the answer to solving the nation’s issues but standing firm on the basic principals that have governed our nation. A candidate who is not afraid to look directly into the media cameras, their counterparts on the other side of the aisle and the faces of the nation and stand on those principals. A candidate who is not going to sway in the wind and ride the waves of public opinion. A candidate who will tell the American people the hard facts and not be in the business of making false assurances. A candidate that will tell the nation that the best and brightest hope for the future has absolutely nothing to do with Washington and resides solely in the American people.

“Nations crumble from within when the citizenry asks of government those things which the citizenry might better provide for itself,” our greatest modern president once said.  

I want to hear that again and I know that I am not alone. The silent majority, I believe, is still out there.

I want a conservative candidate who is willing to put themselves and their political career at the mercy of their convictions.

When that happens, GOP dead or not, I am confident that conservatism will carry the day.


15 Responses to “GOP dead? Maybe, but not conservatism”

  1. 1 Charlie
    November 16, 2008 at 1:34 am

    I couldn’t agree with you more. McCain was not my pick either. The media picked our candidate by trashing the more conservaive frontrunners early in the process. McCain was nearly out of money and strugling early on, but thanks to our mainstream media, they came through with their support for Senator McCain. I have always respected his history and service, however, his dealings across the aisle were less than conservative.
    I truly believe that given a true conservative candidate, America could see the difference. Conservatism is far from dead, regardless of the outspoken liberal left. If only our schools and colleges could get back to teaching history at our country’s begining instead of since late 69′, our middle-age and younger citizens could distinguish between a free country and one completely comtrolled by government. Our founding fathers no doubt have rolled over several times in their respective graves, when they see how far left our country has gone.
    It will be up to us to raise our children and educate them about history, honor, respect and the truth, if we ever want to take back our country.
    We conservatives need to start being a little more verbal and not back down when faced with the idiocy of the extreme left. Keep up the good fight and pray that God will again bless America, as He did when we were young.

  2. 2 John Levy
    November 17, 2008 at 6:43 am

    Really, it’s time for a new party. The GOP is faltering because of the same corruption that plagues the Democrats and the unions and the corporations. We need to adhere to the values of which you speak, to hold people accountable, especially those in public office, and to have term limits for all public office. Power corrupts and the only way to prevent that is strict term limits. Perhaps even transcending office to limit the entire time in public office.

    The unchanging and enduring constitution of this country should be held sacred. It is not a living document. The foresight of our forefathers was profound. They saw man as being capable of passions, and they devised a means of keeping those passions in check. They saw government as capable of being drawn toward tyrannical excesses, whatever its motives, and they devised means of limiting its powers to protect the citizenry from tyrannical rule. They had more than an instinctive understanding that, regardless of the sincerity of their motives, good men can become bad men when they develop the conviction that they have a superior understanding of what is good and what is bad for their fellow men, and they took steps to prevent such people from prevailing in this elitist misconception. They wrote the finest document in all of history. Simple, elegant, powerful, and wise, it is the foundation of liberty and democracy in the western world and the template for new countries writing their own constitutions. Make no mistake, the constitution is meant to provide protections against majority rule and the Bill of Rights is meant to protect you and me against the majority.

    In his Farewell Address in 1796, George Washington said, “If in the opinion of the people the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. The precedent must always greatly overbalance in permanent evil any partial or transient benefit which the use can at any time yield.”

    The new party should be constitutionally conservative. Perhaps there is such a movement already. I don’t know. One thing that I do know is that we better take this upon ourselves now because we seem to have forgotten that this is our country and our government. We speak of “the” government because we have come to regard our government as an independent body with no connection to the people.

    A so-called Constitutional Scholar, Obama speaks of change. Constitutionally, I speak of no change. I hope Obama understands the difference.

  3. 3 WonderWoman
    November 17, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    I think it’s time for the silent majority to stop being so silent.
    Conservatism may not be dead or dying, but it’s taking a beating. We are allowing liberals to stomp all over us, the Bible, and the Constitution.

    It’s just sad.

  4. 4 Rich
    November 17, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    If hte majority of conservatives are “silent” then who do you have to blame other than yourselves?? You blame the liberals for doing exactly what you are saying you should be doing yourself…….speaking your mind. i don’t believe thay are dead but changing, as you must to survive in this world. This is not 1796 or 1984 for that matter. Everyone on here is great at quoting history books, JOsh included. Just once though, someone tell me how this far right thinking will change TODAY’S America for the better.

  5. 5 Willie
    November 18, 2008 at 3:53 am

    (Here’s how a thoughtful conservative views the state of the GOP. The Trib reprinted this on Sunday. It’s a nice break from the opinions of the hard-liners — on the left and the right.)


    How Obama voters saved the GOP
    From the ashes of defeat might rise a resurgent limited-government party.
    Steven Greenhut
    Sr. editorial writer and columnist
    The Orange County Register

    God bless the American public for saving the Republican Party from itself. I’m fine with the national results – a strong victory by Barack Obama and enough Democratic congressional victories to teach Republicans a lesson, but not so many that there’s no hope for the GOP to climb back out of its hole in the next decade. But that hole has gotten pretty deep. It would have been better had Republicans learned from their 30-seat House loss in 2006, but the party can be amazingly stubborn.

    A lot of conservatives are now weeping and gnashing their teeth – a spectacle I find quite entertaining. We’ve got the McCain campaign blasting Sarah Palin as a not-so-bright prima donna who didn’t even know that Africa is a continent and not a country. That’s pretty much what her critics have said all along, but the GOP’s cultural-conservative base sees her as the future. If they are right, expect Democratic dominance to last through our lifetimes.

    Expect the battles to get crazier, as conservatives huff and puff about the evils that the Obama administration will foist on the nation. They’ve got a point, but they will be warning about an oncoming socialistic tsunami, even as they failed to stand up to Bush’s socialistic tidal wave. They will insist that President Obama will sell out the country to its enemies, which is nonsense. Some day, the conservative adults are going to have to reassert themselves. Of course, the media will need to carefully monitor the new administration. But if the conservative movement and the Republican Party can’t get past the “Obama is an anti-American terrorist sympathizer” rhetoric, it will never learn the lessons it needs to learn to get back into power.

    After the election, a McCain supporter asked me whether I was happy with the results. He asked the question in an accusatory tone, given that I never could support the McCain/Palin ticket. My response: “The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of Republicans, McCain and the Bush administration, which abandoned limited-government conservatism in favor of me-too socialism and a vulgar and mean-spirited conservatism. Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich have said the same thing. Most of the Dems elected to Congress in 2008 are moderates (as Dems go) and Obama will probably govern as a centrist-liberal. The GOP will regroup in defeat and find its voice again and start offering a positive message – kind of like Reagan. New, young GOP voices will emerge and the Republic will survive. So while I’m not dancing in the streets, I am pleased to see the merciful end of the Bush era.”

    Some time in the wilderness will be a good thing for the GOP. In October 2006, before the Republican Party’s last well-deserved defeat, former Republican majority leader Armey offered the following warning: “Where did the revolution go astray? How did we go from the big ideas and vision of 1994 to the cheap political point-scoring on meaningless wedge issues of today – from passing welfare reform and limited government to banning horse meat and same-sex marriage? The answer is simple: Republican lawmakers forgot the party’s principles, became enamored with power and position, and began putting politics over policy. Now, the Democrats are reaping the rewards of our neglect – and we have no one to blame but ourselves.”

    The GOP needs to learn that anger doesn’t sell. McCain was the angriest candidate I can remember. His loathing of his opponent (“that one”) was obvious during the debates, even though McCain redeemed himself a bit with a classy concession speech. Had that McCain showed up on the campaign trail, he might now be the president-elect. There was a darkness to this campaign, epitomized by Palin’s lauding of the “pro-America” parts of the country, as if the rest of us live in “un-American” areas. Actually, Obama learned the positive “city on the hill” lesson from Reagan, even if the two men’s politics are miles apart.

    The party also needs to remind itself of the dangers of anti-intellectualism. After my criticism of Palin, I heard from many conservatives who argued that Palin’s obvious ignorance of national political issues is in itself a good thing because it proves that she’s not an elitist! Conservative columnist David Brooks dissected this thinking: “[Palin]represents a fatal cancer to the Republican Party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley, [who]famously said he’d rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty. But he didn’t think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservativeside who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. …”

    Credibility matters. Yes, McCain sounded like a limited-government conservative during his last weeks on the campaign trail, but his party’s record doesn’t live up to that. Just mouthing words is insufficient, or, in fact, worse than insufficient. Hearing Bush and McCain talk about limiting government is like listening to a prostitute give a lecture on abstinence.

    The Republican Left (think Arnold Schwarzenegger) will now argue that Republicans need to become even more like Democrats by abandoning ideology and getting together to cut deals. This means giving up principled resistance to notions of limiting government and is the blueprint for permanent minority status. Unfortunately, the Republican Right will argue that the party needs to more stridently embrace its version of conservatism – with its emphasis on cultural issues, militarism, law and order as well as some good things (deregulation, low taxes). The latter are the folks who think the GOP erred by not running enough Jeremiah Wright ads. Heaven help us.

    “The civil war among conservatives will be between an enraged rump of die-hard knotheads and a disparate group of reformers,” argues conservative writer Rod Dreher. “The knotheads believe that Obama’s victory came thanks to the treason of some conservative intellectual elites and McCain’s failure to be more like Reagan, whatever that means 20 years after the Gipper left the White House. Sarah Palin is the standard-bearer for the talk-radio faction within knotheadism, and Mitt Romney will emerge as the GOP establishment’s last stand.” Think about that as a scary choice, the Palin Knotheads vs. the Romney Establishmentarians.

    Instead, Republicans need to return to their small-government roots. This includes a rethinking of the party’s embrace of the National Security State and of the neoconservative international prerogatives that probably had something to do with Tuesday’s losses. As Antiwar.com’s Justin Raimondo put it: “Saddled with the neocons’ war and the central theme of the McCain campaign – ‘victory’ in Iraq and intervention around the world – Republicans all across the nation have been dragged down to defeat.” Will the party ever learn that spending hundreds of billions of dollars policing the globe also is a form of big government?

    There is good news. “Republicans are a natural minority party,” Orange County Taxpayers Association President Reed Royalty told me. “They are good at fighting stuff. California Republicans’ performance in the budget battle is a good example.” Well, the GOP will have plenty of practice fighting the Democrats in Washington. From that might grow a resurgent limited-government conservatism. One can always be hopeful.

    Contact the writer: sgreenhut@ocregister.comor 714-796-7823

  6. 6 Carly
    November 18, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    History tends to repeat itself….so quoting history books and figures in history is not such a crazy idea.

    2 of the key topics that liberals and conservatives disagree on are Abortions and Gay Marriages. Following the guidelines of the Bible (the oldest History book), both are sins. The more liberals try to legalize Abortions and Gay Marriages, the easier it is for people to be less accountable for their actions…and justify their sins.

    I don’t understand how anyone who watches the news can’t see that without basic Christian values and morals, this world is in danger! Kids killing kids, drugs are out of control, babies being left in dumpsters, etc. Socialistic politics and “redistributing the wealth” are only going to put more money in the hands of these drug dealers and druggies, it’s going to make having abortions easier to afford so that more and more of our daughters don’t have to be “punished with a baby.”

    How is that going to change Today’s America for the better? How is taking God out of everything going to make America better?

  7. 8 Rich
    November 18, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Carly -I need you to explain something to me, but first let’s get something straight on the two arguments you talk about. The disagreement is not if abortions or gay marriages are right or not. The argument is on what say the government should have on the matter. I am a Christian who does not think abortions are right at all. However, I believe that is everyone’s individual choice to make. And as a woman you are saying that a rape victim should not be allowed to have an abortion?? Because it can’t be okay for some and not others. As for gay marriages, why do you care what two people do? Anyways, this is what I need you to explain to me. You are calling yourself a conservative which by the blogger and many posts on here means less government. Yet you want the government to tell everyone what the should believe on these two subjects?? Sounds more than a little hypocritical to me. I mean, correct me if I’m wrong all you history buffs, but this country was founded because people wre being told they had to believe one thing or else. So a bunch of free thinking great men came here for religious freedom. Yet here you are saying YOUR beliefs are the only right ones. I won’t even mention all the “conservatives” caught in gay rendezvous over the last couple years or the fact that one of the holiest establishments in America(the Catholic church) is infested with ADMITTED child molesters. With talk out of both sides of your mouths how do you expect conservatism to ever survive?

  8. 9 Tree Hugger
    November 19, 2008 at 2:02 am

    Thomas Jefferson said “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

    The constitution states “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”..

    The most important thing to remember is that freedom of religion, if it is going to apply to EVERYONE, also requires freedom from religion. It’s no coincidence that people who object to the principle of “freedom from religion” are members of religious groups whose doctrines or standards would be the ones enforced by the state. These people are unable to really imagine themselves in the shoes of religious minorities who don’t voluntarily accept these doctrines or standards and, hence, experience an infringement on THEIR religious liberties through state enforcement or endorsement. That, or they simply don’t care what religious minorities experience because they think they have the One True Religion.

  9. 10 Carly
    November 19, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Rich, I do not sway or waver on any of my beliefs. I do not believe in abortion, period. Yes, some circumstances are cruel (rape for example), but I do believe that God allows things to happen and has a reason. I feel sympathy towards the rape victim, trust me, but let’s give them alternatives to abortion…adoption and all the counseling they need to get through this very tough time. Rich, how can you say you are against abortions completely then say that a rape victim should be able to choose? You are questioning my stance when your foundation on that matter doesn’t seem so firm. May I also point out that you basically condescendingly attacked my Pro-Life stance by saying, “And as a woman you are saying that a rape victim should not be allowed to have an abortion?? Because it can’t be okay for some and not others.” Just because I am a woman, does not mean I would condone abortion in any situation. I DO NOT think it’s right for some and not others…how would that be Christian of me?

    As far as gay marriage is concerned, I care what others do because I want them to make it to heaven. That’s like saying why have preachers or church? If I don’t care what others do, why should they? They are spreading the word of God, which as a Christian, you know it’s our responsibility to do the same…if we legalize gay marriage, then we’re not doing a good enough job, are we??

    You do make a point on government telling us what we can and cannot do, however, if abortion is legalized and gay marriage is legalized then, we the people, are basically condoning both acts and not holding true to God’s word.

    I will give you that it’s a sticky situation, either way the government is telling us what to do, isn’t it? On one hand if they ban abortion and gay marriage, they are telling us, ‘NO you can’t do that.’ but on the other hand if they tell us we can, then they are making both seem, ok to do. I would rather they tell us, NO because that has Christian bearing and can be justified by the bible! so maybe on these 2 topics you could call me a hypocrite, but that’s just 2 topics out of a slew of topics. These 2 topics, I will admit, I take more of a Religious stand on than a Less Government stand.

    And Rich, I am talking about my beliefs and conservatism being more in tune with Christian beliefs, I’m not saying that every conservative is right with God. For you to assume that I’m saying all Conservatives are Godly, is ridiculous! I really think you’re just grasping at straws! Never would I condone any Republican (or Democrat) having “gay rendezvous,” affairs, abortions, etc. They have sinned, plain and simple. They have to answer to God, not me.

    Trust me, it pains me to say this, but I have loved ones who are gay, who I know I will not see in heaven unless they change their ways. I want them to be happy, but I don’t not want them to continue down the wrong path. Legalizing Gay Marriage will just encourage them to live in sin, rather than seeking the help of God.

    Jefferson’s full quote:

    “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

    Basically, government needs to reach an action on these matters while still respecting separation between church and state. All I am trying to say is that as a Christian I feel both should be banned, and YES, that is based on my religion, which I know the government shouldn’t base their decision.

    Please don’t think that I don’t have compassion for women who are faced with an unwanted pregnancy, or for gay people who believe they were born gay. Trust me, I have known both, all I am saying is based on what I believe, both are wrong. However, I do not judge the individual(s), that’s not my job, and I still love and care about them. I just don’t condone their behavior, but not to the point where I would turn my back on them.

    This is getting long, and I feel like I’m all over the place. I didn’t mean to offend anyone, I was just stating my feelings on the 2 subjects based solely on my religious background. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, choice of religion, or lack thereof. But of course I’m going to think I’m right…if I didn’t, then what would I be believing in?

    But Rich, I’m still curious, how is the left side of thinking better for Today’s America? How is redistributing the wealth going to help today’s America?

  10. 11 Rich
    November 20, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    First I want to apolgize if I offended you in anyway. I just had the same argument with my own sister last week as she believes just as you do. It just baffles me thast anyone, but especially a woman, would feel the government has a right to tell you what you can or can’t do with your body. And then you say our jobs as Christians is to spread the Word. I agree completely, SPREAD. You are talking about FORCING your beliefs on others not spreading. There is a huge difference. That is how I can say I believe abortion is wrong but also believe it should be others own choices. I would tell them my thoughts but it is their decision in the end. Who am I to judge anyone?? We will all be judged in time but not by anyone here on Earth.
    As for seperation of church and state being tricky……BULL! The government should have no say on any matter when it comes to religious beliefs. Religious freedom was one of the founding principles of this great nation. Now because the religions may not all be Christian, this should change??
    Lastly, you ask how the left side of thinking is going to help America today. Unlike many posters on her and the blogger himself, I will not lie to you, I don’t know that it will. But I do know this world is a changing place. America, unfortunately, is not the juggernaut it once was. To get back there we will have to be open minded to the world, working together both in America and outside. The one sided thinking of the Right is not going to do that. So I guess it’s more I sleep better at night knowing that maybe, just maybe, the change has come that we’ve needed.

  11. 12 Peter
    November 21, 2008 at 12:26 am

    Carly, my dear one-note friend who does not separate church and state. I mean this in the spirit of friendship but I’m going to pray for you. When do I get to vote if you are allowed to marry or not? I would never, ever try to get in the way of your inalienable right to marry. As long as people keep injecting their so-called Christian beliefs into politics we will never be truly free. Labeling people based on religion is discrimination. Intolerance is bad, don’t you agree? If one doesn’t choose the path of Jesus are we damned and hated? What about all of the other wonderful religions throughout the world? Are those people going to hell? None of us, regardless of faith, truly knows what’s out there after death. I think too many of us make excuses, close our minds and paint ugly pictures to rationalize what we cannot realistically understand. This will undoubtedly get a response but I am a life-long, God-fearing, church-going, Jesus-loving, community-volunteering, relationship-driven, monogamous, masculine, sweaty man-loving, healthy, hot, educated homosexual. God made me this way and it is right! It is good! I guarantee I’ll be in Heaven way before most of you that feel the need to label people. You know why, I have faith that’s a fact. I have far more faith in God and Jesus, they evolve like we do. Truth be told, I’ll bet all the money in the world that I would welcome a deep, conservative, Christian into my home way before they would welcome me into theirs. So who’s more Christian? Get your life back my friend, open your mind and heart so you can really appreciate all of the goodness in the world without so many filters. See you in Heaven…I’ll keep your seat warm.

  12. 13 Terri
    November 21, 2008 at 6:48 am

    What is a “right” for a mother cannot infringe upon the “right” of the unborn child. Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths to be self evident-That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are the pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. These unborn children have a right to LIVE that obviously supersedes the right of the mother to be unsaddled with a child. In a free country founded on Christian principles this ungodly practice is the epitome of selfishness. Some statistics: Number of Jews killed during Nazi holocaust-6,000,000 Number of American babies aborted since 9/11-8,325,000 Number of US battle deaths in 8 year American Revolution-4,435 Number of babies aborted in one day in the US today-3,750 Number of US soldiers killed in Iraq War-4,000 and climbing Number of abortions in the US since Iraq War began-7,000,000 and climbing Number of American battle deaths in all US wars since 1776-654,000 Number of abortions in US since 1970-50,500,000 Number of Americans of all ages and races murdered daily by handguns-18.3 Again…Number of American babies of all races killed every day by abortion-3,750

  13. 14 Carly
    November 21, 2008 at 2:27 pm


    The only thing I have to say to you is…if you are truly “life-long, God-fearing, church-going, Jesus-loving” then you SHOULD know what’s out there.

    I know what the bible that I read says…so I DO know what’s out there, if I wasn’t sure, again, what would I be believing in? My beliefs and convictions are strong. I can’t say one minute that I live my life by the bible then say in the next that I wasn’t sure what would happen after death because they bible tells me what happens.

    And Peter, I am not intolerable of homosexuals, like I said I have loved ones who are gay and friends who are gay that I pray for everyday. Peter, I want you to be in Heaven, I want my loved ones to be in Heaven! I will admit, I struggle with believing that these great people that I know and love, will not make it to heaven unless they change their ways. I think, “maybe God will see how great they are and overlook that little sin.” Who knows, maybe he will, but that’s not what my bible tells me. I hope that I’m wrong.

    I don’t mean to offend you, Peter, and I’m not trying to condemn you to hell, trust me. But my beliefs are what they are…and they are based on the bible that I read. You can hate me for that or call me intolerant, close-minded, close-hearted, etc. But know this…I do not hate you for your beliefs or lifestyle.

    And for the record, you would most certainly be welcome into my home. I am not prejudice against any race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. I would welcome you to my home with open arms.

  14. 15 Carly
    November 21, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Rich, I meant to comment. I accept your apology, thank you.

    I have a lot I could say about Separation of Church and State and it’s interpretation, but I won’t get into that right now.

    I’m certainly not trying to FORCE the word of God on anyone, if I’ve come off that way, then I apologize. I guess I just feel that if the government decides to ban abortion and gay marriage that it would be leading us (the nation) away from temptation, and it may not bother me all that much.

    But you’re right, everyone has to answer to God, it’s not up to us to judge.

    So honestly, I can’t make a decision on this without my beliefs getting in the way. I guess it’s a good thing I’m not in Congress.

    I also want to say I admire your honesty in the last paragraph of your last post.

    You know, it’s funny because Republicans are hoping we’re wrong about Obama and what’s to come for the sake of our country, and I know a lot of Liberals who are hoping they are right for the sake of the country….but it seems like there’s definitely some uncertainty on BOTH sides.

    Either way, it’ll be a journey, I’m sure.

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