25
Nov
08

Talking heads talking in circles

Has anyone noticed that the talking heads on every television station are constantly extolling the Democrat model of politics as the only means to a successful end? If the GOP does not adopt the pander to the people style of government, they simply cannot succeed.

This is frustrating beyond belief.

I don’t want a party that panders to manufactured political groups any more than I want a party that is willing to sell out their values to gain those voting targets.

On FOX News the other day two pundits were talking about how Republicans can get the Hispanic vote. Guess what guys? I don’t want the Hispanic vote. I want the American vote.

When the Republican Party breaks down the country into voting blocks, they fail. When the Republican Party targets specific groups and try to placate their needs, they fail.

John McCain was the candidate most sought by party centrists because he could swing the Hispanic vote and because he would appeal to other manufactured classes of the country. And, as you know, he failed too.

When candidates run on conservative principals and stick to them across the board, they win.

Despite the media’s representation of the mood of the nation, I believe there is a silent majority waiting for their candidate to arise and stop the politics of class warfare too often used by both parties.

When the nation’s politicians start looking at the country as a whole and not as charted statistics that are easily grouped into voting blocks, a second Reagan Revolution will be born.

Until then I guess we are stuck with pundits telling us that the only means of survival for the GOP is to move toward the center and adopt the Liberal-Democrat strategy that class warfare and defeatism equal victory.

Defeat in Iraq – Good for the Libs.

Defeat in the economy – Good for the Libs.

Defeat in the nation’s health care system – Good for the Libs.

It must be so disheartening to have to root for failure in every major issue facing our country to ensure your own victory and to further endanger our troops in the process.

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37 Responses to “Talking heads talking in circles”


  1. 1 Kathryn Jones
    November 25, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Defeat in Iraq – Good for the Libs. Really? How so?

    Defeat in the economy – Good for the Libs. You think so huh? Tell me why.

    Defeat in the nation’s health care system – Good for the Libs. Are you sure about that? I don’t see any good for anybody coming from these ‘defeats’.

    You undermine your own blog by creating a division at the end of it. Your fate as a Republican is sealed. Hatred and division are things of the past…kinda like the Edsel. Someday our grandkids will read about you all in their history books, and it won’t be pretty.

    P.S. Spell check is not always foolproof.

  2. 2 Rich
    November 25, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    KAREN,
    You must be new to the blog. Everyday is about how the left is completely wrong and leading the country to the pitfalls of hell. But how the great right can do better? Good luck finding an answer to that here. But then again they are the SILENT majority. 😉

  3. 3 Rich
    November 25, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    OOOPS…..I meant Kathryn

  4. November 26, 2008 at 12:04 am

    They like to revell in ripping this country to shreds, Josh. Pay their mockery no mind, for the know not what they do…they farted, and their brains fell out.

    Hey, Rich…the 3,000 people you claim Dubya killed were doing their jobs. They knew the risks…they were prepared for the ultimate sacrifice. It’s the most honorable thing an American can do.

    It’s the same sacrifice I was prepared to make during the 4 years of my life I gave to protect your smart (not) ass. Have you served your country, Rich? Did you give up something of yourself and live without your precious freedom for any amount of time, Rich? Is that the sound of silence I hear?

    As for SW PA not needing me. You might want to rethink that. It’s a great place, a beautiful place, but it’s inhabited by far too many Democrats, sucking the life out of its older residents by taxing them to death and chasing away all it’s young ones who are too smart to let you redistribute their wealth. The Republicans there, meanwhile, are either too cozy with the Democrats because they need them to stay in power, or their outright RINOs who love Arlen Sphincter.

    If that’s a great place to live, I’ve got some swamp land in Florida to sell ya. It even comes with Pat Buchanan chads, and a few gators who’ve developed a taste for human flesh.

    Finally, if you knew what you were talking about, you’d realize I’m no right-winger. I’ve got my guns aimed at both sides….

    http://feedyouradhd.blogspot.com

  5. 5 Kathryn Jones
    November 26, 2008 at 1:09 am

    Thanks Rich…I am new here. This could be fun though. It doesn’t hurt to ask for answers and silence does speak volumes. 🙂

  6. 6 Rich
    November 26, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    First of all, as anyone on the right would do, my questioning the war brinngs you to the automaic conclusion I don’t support the troops. I know the troops are doing there jobs that they signed up for. What I said is Dubya has gotten 3000+ killed doing their jobs, not to make this country safer, but because Dubya had to finish daddy’s war. Notice I say 3000 because I only consider Iraq the unneccessary war.
    As for yself, no, I have never served personally. I have many friends and family who have and I respect anyone(even someone like you) that has. I thank them and you for doing what you did so I can get on this blog and say what I want. I’m sure you think less of me because in your eyes I have never made the “sacrfice”. That’s your opinion.
    Finally…..”they farted and their brains fell out” ; “Arlen Sphincter” :”guns aimed at both sides”, I think we can tell by these inspiring quotes the mentality you are working with so rally no more needs said.
    So, notice, no silence here. All your questions answered.

  7. 7 Ray
    November 27, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Kathryn, you’re right-no good comes from those defeats. Unfortunately, defeat allows democrats to use fear to get elected or re-elected and implement policies that they would be hard pressed to sell to the American people otherwise. Hope this helps.

  8. 8 Charlie
    November 27, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    I would just like to know what God these people are worshipping. The God who graciously accepts the freewill to suck the living out of irresponsible women, or the God of love and forgiveness who cherishes life. Many men and women lost their lives protecting freedoms, not only ours but the weak and oppressed around the world. Thank God that we have such a great military and not one where everyone must participate. There are great number of Americans out there that I wouldn’t want to have my back.
    Josh, keep up the good fight. Conservatives and true Christians in this country need to start being more vocal and not passive. Christ tells us to turn the other cheek but not to be foolish. Listening and debating fools is a waste of precious time. Our country is running out of time and freedom is going to be the price we pay for what? Change. I hope not.
    Let’s just look at history and lean toward what worked not what didn’t. Leave the media pundits to their own, they will devour themselves in time. Remember that the American revolution was started in the homes not in the town squares.

  9. 9 Kathryn
    November 28, 2008 at 5:57 am

    Charlie…

    “Listening and debating fools is a waste of precious time.”? Why can’t you just admit that you are incapable of true debate given the fact that you either can’t or won’t listen to opposing viewpoints? Those who do not understand their opponents arguments do not fully understand their own. You are a prime example of the malignancy that will destroy the Conservative movement. Keep up the good work.

  10. 10 Ray
    November 28, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Kathryn,
    I’ve just read through your posts and I see no attempt on your part to understand opposing viewpoints. Did you actually read Charlie’s post and understand what he is saying? It doesn’t appear so. Although I may not agree with the way everyone may state their opinions, I think that everyone is entitled to express the way they feel. And I realize that it is not everyones’ responsibility to “understand” the way that I feel. You mentioned the “malignancy that will destroy the conservative movement.” Can you help me to understand such an expression? I look forward to understanding where you’re coming from.

  11. 11 Kathryn
    November 28, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Sure Ray…happy to oblige…

    The Republican party lies in ruins from coast to coast because rather than attempting to find common ground from which to build a strong foundation for this country, they have engaged in a “divide and conquer” strategy which, after eight years (and then some), has proven futile, not to mention devastating, not only to the party but to the country. The politics of fear is a strictly Conservative modus operandi. A malignancy is defined as (tending to produce death or deterioration; especially : tending to infiltrate, metastasize, and terminate fatally) Given the current state of the Republican party, and Neocons in particular, my words should need no further explanation.

    I merely pointed out that Mr. Krysak undermined his entire blog by creating a division at the end of it. Had he left off the ending, there would have been little for me to say, but he just couldn’t quit while he was ahead…he had to go out of his way to take a parting shot at Liberals after blithering on about unity. And, God forbid I should ask him to clarify his remarks!? Tell me I’m wrong.

    I disagree with you in that I believe we all have a responsibility to understand one another’s perspective, especially if we care to take part in forums like this. I simply asked for answers to legitimate questions, and it’s becoming increasingly obvious that those questions will never be answered. Why am I not surprised? As for not seeing an “attempt on your (my) part to understand opposing viewpoints”, my questions are nothing less than an attempt to understand Mr. Krysak’s viewpoint. I want to know why he thinks a defeat in Iraq is good for Liberals. I want to know why he thinks that defeat in the economy is good for Liberals and I want to know why he thinks that a defeat of the health care system is good for Liberals. If he’s going to talk the talk…I suggest he be ready to walk the walk. It’s really that simple.

    P.S. I don’t feel the need draw any more attention to Charlie. Sometimes it’s better to let the rope flow freely than to yank it back prematurely. In other words, I’m not in the mood. Maybe later.

  12. 12 NoFear
    November 28, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    Kathryn,

    I’d like to know what election you were following and what t.v. stations you were watching to determine that Convervatives’ mode of operation was the fear tactic. Unless you count pointing out a person’s REAL affiliations with some not-so credible acquaintances as a fear tactic.

    Obama’s biggest argument during this election was the fact that McCain was too much like Bush, and we don’t need another 8 years of the same. His campaign smeared the Bush Administration and proclaimed that we desperately need “hope” and “change” in order to survive – how is that not instilling fear in people? Fearful that the next 4-8 years would be like the Bush Administration, our country has decided to elect a man with no real experience. Now, THAT IS SCARY. What is even more scary is what Joe Biden said about our country being “tested” if Obama is elected – oh, but that’s just crazy Joe sticking his foot in his mouth again, we’ll overlook that too. If you ask me, Biden and Hill created more fear against Obama in this election than any conservative, but hey, the people still elected him, so obviously they aren’t too scared.

  13. 13 Charlie
    November 28, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Ray,
    I do not know what she was reading either. Most liberals read one thing, yet their minds intpret them completely out of context. I am very open-minded and believe in honest, forthright debate. However, I do not see anything close to equal and balanced debating going on anywhere. The sides do not resemble each other in the least. Smoe people who believe that they know all the answers, often are the most ignorant.
    I will debate anyone who is worhy of debate. It is a shame that there are few who meet the minimum qualifications. I am not a cancer for conservatives. Too bad most liberals like yourself Kathy, can’t see where the real malignancy that is eroding our country lies. Here’s a shortcut. Try looking in the mirror. We can only Hope and Pray that more lefties see the light, before it dims to the point where Cuba might look like a nice place to escape to.
    Oh, by the way, if I may ask. Who or whom did you give thanks to yesterday? The God of Abraham and Moses, or the god of …..?

  14. 14 joshkrysak
    November 28, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Defeat in Iraq – Liberals have invested in defeat as a means of political victory. They are against the war. Against the surge. Against finishing the job. They are for cutting and running and predetermined troop withdrawals. When our military ultimately succeeds in Iraq, then the liberals will have politicized our most important matter of security and freedom for nothing more than their own navels. They are invested in failure. That is not difficult to understand.

    Defeat on the economy – Many liberals readily admit that after McCain selected Palin and the Republican ticket spiked in September they were concerned about the outcome of the election. Despite the media’s constant barrage of coverage that Republicans and the Bush administration had high jacked the country and that Republican policy was to blame for every ill facing Americans, it appeared that the nation’s voting populace was poised to elect yet another Republican to the White House. Then the wheels fell off the credit-based economy driven into the ground by Democrats controlling Fanny and Freddie and other government-based lenders. When the economy went south, the Democrats seized upon the failing economy and immediately promised tax cuts for the little guys and found their loophole to the American pocketbook, which all-too-often controls the electorate. When the economy tanked, Democrats rebounded. When the economy started to fail, people were ready for their handouts and the liberals were ready to promise the moon. A failed or failing economy is a liberal dream because they can play on the most basic fears of all Americans and socialism, by doses, can begin to be administered.

    Defeat in health care – Again, it is the same general principal at work here. The greatest health care system on the planet has some problems with skyrocketing rates and millions of Americans without health coverage. So, a perceived failing health care system is the perfect time for our glorious Big Brother to step and in do what obviously needs done. Nationalize the system, because, as we all know, things run by the federal government like our borders and Social Security are doing so well. When the health care system fails, it is a positive for liberals because it again opens the door for increased government and empty promises of health care for all.

    When will you understand that the solution is not found in Washington? No leaders can fix our problems and no government can provide for every need of the people. Only we can provide for ourselves.

    And, for those who don’t know, I WALK it every single day.

  15. 15 WonderWoman
    November 28, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    It’s frustrating not to get answers, isn’t it? Yet the liberal media tried to brush all of Obama’s skeletons under the carpet, saying there was no need further explanation. If we can’t expect our President-Elect to answer the tough questions, why should we expect a reporter for the Herald Standard to?

    Why should we hold Mr. Krysak so accountable for the things he says when we don’t even hold our President-Elect accountable? If I were a liberal, I’d be demanding to know why $300,000 became $250,000, and why $250,000 became $200,000. I’d also be upset with his appointments to his cabinet – where’s the change?

  16. 16 WonderWoman
    November 28, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Apparently while I was writing my post, Mr. Krysak was walking the walk.

    Great Explanation, Josh, maybe you should be our next President, at least you answer tough questions!

  17. 17 Kathryn
    November 28, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Mr. Krysak,

    Thank you for answering my questions rather than evading them with meaningless rhetoric. I respect that. While I disagree with your conclusions and believe you paint with too broad of a stroke, I can understand where you are coming from now. But, I still believe you undermined the entire blog by ending it the way you did.

    I will agree completely with your last two sentences. Unfortunately, your true idealogical conservatism (which has it’s merits-without a doubt) has been hijacked by the religious right. Until your party can provide more than a two plank platform (abortion, gay rights), with support beams not rooted in fear and division, it is destined to fail. Of course, that’s just my opinion…only time will tell.

  18. 18 Kathryn
    November 28, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Wonder Woman…

    I was pleased to return home this afternoon to find that he had, indeed, walked the walk. That’s very cool. I don’t think I was out of line suggesting he do so though. This is a professional blog, associated with a professional news outlet, not some irrelevant Myspace page.

  19. 19 Ray
    November 29, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Kathryn,
    I appreciate your very well written response, but I hardly think that the Rupublican party “lies in ruins.” Just look at the election result maps. A lot of the blue states are actually red when looked at couny by county (including PA) and the country was pretty evenly divided at final tally. I do feel, however, that the Republican party has been a big disappointment-at least for me-but fear and division are really the primary tactics of the left. In my first post I meant to say that defeat allows politicians to use fear to get elected. The reference to Democrats must have been an unconcious slip stemming from the fact that they’re always trying to scare me. But you’re probably right in that both parties use fear from time to time. As for the rest, Mr Krysak’s very learned response explains things far better than I can.

    P.S. Charlie can speak for himself, but I totally understand his frustration with leftwingnut politicians and its left-leaning media, and I still don’t totally understand why you would refer to someone (or their opinion) as a malignancy.

  20. 20 Kathryn
    November 29, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Sorry Ray…

    Even the so called leaders (and I use that term loosely as I can’t identify a leader just yet) of the Republican party would agree, and have done so publicly, that the party does indeed, lie in ruins from coast to coast. Maybe not in those exact words, but the sentiment is the same. Red state, blue state…it’s irrelevant now. The mid-term elections of 2010 will either provide a merciful end to the Republican party as we know it, or it will be a precursor to a resurrection. We’ll see how things play out.

    As far as the politics of fear are concerned, mark my words, there will come a day when Karl Rove guest lectures at the college level and takes full credit for perfecting and successfully engaging the politics of fear and division. It’s his legacy.

    As for Charlie, his words speak volumes. I can’t make him appear any more foolish than he does on his own (well, yeah, I can…I just choose not to at this point).

    Eventually you will understand my “malignancy” reference, as the definition speaks for itself. It’s not directed at an individual or an opinion as much as it is directed at an attitude of supposed moral and ethical superiority which has no foundation. Call it a hunch, call it intuition or call it a well educated guess…I predict that the religious right, including those individuals pushing it’s limited agenda, will prove to be the malignancy that claims the life of true conservative ideaology. It’s only a matter of time.

  21. 21 Charlie
    November 30, 2008 at 2:41 am

    Kathryn,
    Very well stated. I give you a lot of credit, you are well spoken. Too bad that your ideolgy is not the same as that of our founding fathers, or the pilgrims who settled here. If I had to guess, you are a product of the sixties revolution, government schooled by our public system, and probably a member of the PSEA. You simply sound like an educated, atheist or agnostic that believes that moral relativism is the answer to all our problems.
    Your have some very valid perspectives that you eloquently put forth, and those who are easily awed by well spoken people may easily fall prey to your ideology. I know very well who I am, and am a very well respected individual that simply wants what is rightfully mine as an American. A future for my children and the freedom to continue living in the greatest country on earth. With, of course, all the liberty and rights that our founding fathers had previous servicemen have given their lives for. I just believe that our country is headed in the wrong direction, and the media, who can control the ignorant, plays far too great a role in society.

  22. 22 Bill
    December 1, 2008 at 12:19 am

    Josh,

    You’re doing a great job at pointing out to those people what is in store for them. An old saying : “Be careful what you ask for, because you may just receive it”. This great United States is not so united anymore. Families are falling apart, churches, etc. People are accepting things that are not just left, but against God. Ever wonder why democracies only last on average 200 years? Keep on having the government be your big brother…wait and see….

  23. 23 Ray
    December 1, 2008 at 12:30 am

    Kathryn,

    It’s hard for me to take much stock in a sentiment expressed by unnamed leaders, but I sincerely hope that the Republican party, as I know it, is at an end. I myself am not a Republican in my political viewpoints, but I do believe that unless the Republican party gets back to true conservative principles it will become as silly and corrupt a party as the Democrats. By this last statement I do not in any way wish to infer that there aren’t many silly and corrupt Republicans, it’s just that there are so many more high ranking Democrats that really are total buffoons. Actually, I think that you and I would agree on many points and I respect your opinion.

  24. 24 Kathryn
    December 1, 2008 at 6:49 am

    Ray…

    I agree, most politicians are, by nature, buffoons…there’s no doubt about that. I just happen to have hope in my heart now rather than fear and loathing, and that’s change I can believe in.

    Unfortunately, we won’t be sharing any more opinions here. The owner of this blog altered his text after posting, which in turn, altered the context of my response to him. To me, it is unethical to slip in later and change that which has been posted and responded to. I can’t trust what I read here, so I won’t be posting again. Good luck to you.

  25. 25 WonderWoman
    December 1, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    The ONLY difference I see from Mr. Krysak’s original post and what is posted now is he changed the word ROUTE to ROOT – it’s called, proofing. Everyone who blogs or posts comments make mistakes…it did NOT alter his opinion or stance.

    Kathryn, all it did was make your attack on him for making a mistake look weird, which you did that on your own. Your comment was: “P.S. Spell check is not always foolproof.” Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but spell check only checks the SPELLING of a word, and Mr. Krysak spelled ROUTE right, but he meant to say ROOT.

    I print out these blogs to read to my grandmother who doesn’t have the internet, luckily, I printed it before the “change” took place, and as I said, the only difference is, as a professional, he went back and checked his work. Your comment didn’t make sense anyway.

    It’s a shame, that you won’t be posting anymore, even though we don’t agree on pretty much everything, hearing the other side (especially when the person seems very intelligent) is what makes this blog great. I can’t speak for Mr. Krysak, but I’m almost willing to bet that he’s hoping for this kind of intellectual debate to take place on his blog.

  26. 26 Carly
    December 1, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    It’s just like a liberal to: 1. attack someone for a simple mistake they made (yet ignore BIG mistakes in their own party) 2. Try to discredit an ENTIRE blog with something so little as changing A WORD.

    Kathryn’s attempt to discredit Mr. Krysak is just pathetic. Notice how she left out HOW he changed his blog – maybe to persuade some people that he isn’t credible?….it was a minor detail that like WonderWoman said, didn’t change his opinion, his stance, or his meaning.

    I hope Obama doesn’t back down as easily as many of his supporters. If so, we’re in trouble.

  27. 27 Kathryn
    December 1, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Thank God for a woman’s prerogative to change her mind! I’m not talking about the original post, I’m talking about his response to my questions. My reply included the following: ‘I agree with your last two sentences’. Unfortunately, Mr. Krysak added a sentence to his response after the fact and that altered my statement. How am I to believe that anything I read here has not been altered after the fact? As far as changing a misused word, I don’t care if he fixed it or not. That doesn’t change the fact that the word was misused in the first place. It’s not like I’ve saved this complaint for this blog…heck…I didn’t even know this blog existed ’til last week. I complain constantly to the Herald Standard about the misuse of the English language and Mr. Krysak is one of those reporters more guilty of that than others. Why is it so unreasonable to expect professionalism from professionals? I know it going to take some getting used to after eight years of the most unprofessional behavior in the history of the United States, but learn to live with it. Yes indeed, the times they are a changin’.

    Carly, don’t categorize me and don’t antagonize me. I eat people like you and Charlie for sport. You have no idea who or what I am…liberal, democrat, conservative, republican, or a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that you have fallen into the same trap that led me to post here in the first place and that was the propensity of a certain young man to narrowly categorize human beings to suit his own misguided purposes. You can slam liberals all day long if that’s what floats your boat. It makes no difference to me. All you manage to do is prove to me that you have nothing substantive to say.

  28. 28 Carly
    December 1, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Kathryn, I’m so sorry, didn’t realize you were perfect.

    People make mistakes, and if that’s not what you were upset about then why criticize Mr. Krysak as one of the reporters who make the most mistakes in your last response? You know, most reporters do have EDITORS that are supposed to catch those…and sometimes a reporter’s words get changed BY THE EDITORS….so if I were you, I wouldn’t jump to conclusions that it’s necessarily always Mr. Krysak’s fault.

    Oh, and are you trying to intimidate me with your, “I eat people like you and Charlie for sport,” comment? Please. I’m shaking in my boots. You’re right, I don’t know you….and you sure as heck do not know me.

    Just because I don’t keep my thesaurus out when I comment and try to talk down to everyone does not mean that I don’t have anything substantive to say. I’m sorry if you feel I’m beneath you.

    I think I have you pretty much figured out…trust me you make the one horned, flying, purple people eater look GOOD.

    oh, and I’m pretty sure I’d be a lot tastier with a side of Ranch…just so you know ;o)

  29. 29 WonderWoman
    December 1, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    Kathryn, I’m lost. I read his response right after he posted it because I was posting at the same time (see my comments above) and NOTHING changed. I have that printed too. Maybe you didn’t read it correctly?!

  30. 30 joshkrysak
    December 1, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Kathryn:

    What to do? What to do?

    Let us take these one at a time…

    From your comments:

    I complain constantly to the Herald Standard about the misuse of the English language and Mr. Krysak is one of those reporters more guilty of that than others.

    My response:

    Really? Can you prove, as you say, that I am guiltier than others? I know that you cannot. I, like every person that walks this planet, do make mistakes, but I do not do so on a regular basis and would love to see your factual evidence. I can assure you that proving that I make more mistakes than my colleagues would be a gargantuan task because it is absolutely untrue. However, peddling untruths and half-truths appears to be a hobby in which you dabble. An example is the sentence above from your comments.

    From your comments:

    Carly, don’t categorize me and don’t antagonize me. I eat people like you and Charlie for sport.

    My response:

    Threatening? That is very, very disheartening Kathryn. Eating people hardly seems an appropriate response from someone hell-bent on acceptance and tolerance. I guess the acceptance and tolerance doled out endlessly by the liberals is limited to those who don’t disagree with them politically. Disparaging those who are opposed to your viewpoints only reveals the limited scope of your own mind. I don’t know how you can even make us out down here from the apparent perch you write from. I can assure you that regardless of your opinion of me and regardless of your apparently lofty opinion of yourself, I have no qualms about debating any issue with you anytime. The day you “eat” me “for sport” will not occur.

    From your comments:

    What matters is that you have fallen into the same trap that led me to post here in the first place and that was the propensity of a certain young man to narrowly categorize human beings to suit his own misguided purposes.

    My response:

    I am going to bite my tongue on this for now and ask for some clarification. Please.

    ————

    As for other matters, I did not alter my response to your questions in any way. I wish I knew what you were talking about. I posted the response Friday afternoon and then did not look at a computer again until today.

    Finally, Kathryn, I want to say that it is one thing to take cheap shots shrouded in the shadows of anonymity. That is one of the luxuries of the blogosphere. It allows debaters, like you and Carly and Charlie and Ray and Wonder Woman, to hide their identity from one another. However, as you said yourself, this is not an opinion piece posted on MySpace or Facebook. I stand firmly behind the things I write on this blog and in the Herald-Standard. I do not hide and will never hide. And, while you may not think so, I know what you are. Your elitism belies your attempt to hide yourself. You reveal just what you are every time you take to your keyboard.

  31. 31 Kathryn
    December 2, 2008 at 2:18 am

    LOL…now we are getting somewhere. There might be hope for you yet Mr. Krysak. I still say that the last line of your response to me wasn’t there when I wrote my reply, but if you state unequivocally that it was, I admit that I can’t prove otherwise. I will say that had it been there, my reply would have been different. I’m not that careless with my words. Anyway, that’s between you and your conscience.

    Threats? Who made threats? I simply used an outlandish metaphor to communicate my ability to undercut unsubstantiated opinions and irrelevant rhetoric. Even Carly got into the sarcasm as she reminded me to spice her up a bit with some ranch dressing. I’m an ex-Dittohead, an off and on Republican (off this year for sure!) and a recovering Christian. I am intimately familiar with any argument you might pose from the “right side”. I can’t recall where this quote comes from, but it has been stuck in my mind forever: “Those who do not understand their opponents arguments, do not fully understand their own.” Learn it, live it.

    As far as your misuse of the English language, you are probably right, I couldn’t differentiate between you butchering it and another reporter butchering it. However, I do complain to the HS every time I catch it happening. Truth is, I don’t pay much attention to bylines, but it is kinda funny that your name is familiar to me and other names are not. In fact, you are the only HS reporter I recognize by name, and that’s not because of your Pulitzer Prize winning skills (YET anyway…you are young and have a great deal to learn about the world). Nothing annoys me more than seeing misspelled or misused words in a professional piece. That, to me, indicates laziness and a willful disregard for your readers. Call me elite…call me whatever…I don’t care.

    I’ll confess to this much being true, I do indeed do this for sport. If you don’t care to have my words on your blog, I’m sure we can remedy that easily enough. Just tell me to go away and I will. We can easily rewind to last week before I knew you were here…when your efforts garnered three or four responses each. You are but one blog in an infinite supply of blogs. Otherwise, I’m not going to let you slip into complacency even though the bulk of your readers are here for reinforcement of their own opinions and have little interest in the educated opinions of those who disagree with them. In the future though, you should refer to this blog as the “One Side”.

    I’m hungry…where’s Charlie?

  32. 32 joshkrysak
    December 2, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Kathryn:

    First, I am still waiting for clarification regarding your comments.

    From your comments: What matters is that you have fallen into the same trap that led me to post here in the first place and that was the propensity of a certain young man to narrowly categorize human beings to suit his own misguided purposes.

    Please explain what this means.

    As for your latest post, let me lay out a few things and pick apart your self-serving diatribe.

    -You commented: I simply used an outlandish metaphor to communicate my ability to undercut unsubstantiated opinions and irrelevant rhetoric.

    -My response: What ability Kathryn? Show me something substantive in your comments other than attacking me and other conservative thinkers. Really, please show me something to prove that you are not a seminar-blogger. Also, you claim my opinions are unsubstantiated? Again, you masquerade as this deep thinker when your shtick is to just stoke the fire. Your very first post on this blog was to question me about a post. I answered you. Your amazing retort – You respectfully disagreed and then continued to attack rather than outline your own thoughts. I have qualified all my thoughts with reasoning and facts.

    -You commented that you are an ex-Dittohead.

    -My response: I’m very sorry for you that you are so easily persuaded by those around you. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy Rush’s show and find much of what he says informative and, to steal your favorite term, substantive, but I have never been a Dittohead. I don’t take marching orders, Kathryn.

    -You commented that you are an on again off again Republican.

    -My response: Convictions Kathryn. They really determine character. It sounds to me that you are searching for a voice and just jump into the fray wherever you can make the biggest splash. Again, I feel for you.

    -You commented that you are a recovering Christian.

    -My response: After looking skyward for a lightning bolt when I read this, I can only say that this statement reveals much about the undercurrent of anger and bitterness that resonates through your comments. All I can do is pray for you. And, I will.

    -You commented: Truth is, I don’t pay much attention to bylines, but it is kinda funny that your name is familiar to me and other names are not. In fact, you are the only HS reporter I recognize by name, and that’s not because of your Pulitzer Prize winning skills

    -My response: I’m the crime reporter Mrs. Jones. I cover all things crime from shootings to assaults to drugs. Maybe that will help you understand why you recognize my byline more than others. And, for the record, I do not take shots at your intelligence or insult you personally. I’m sorry you have to try and bring me down to build yourself up. It is unbecoming, Kathryn.

    -You commented: If you don’t care to have my words on your blog, I’m sure we can remedy that easily enough. Just tell me to go away and I will.

    -My response: I don’t fight like a liberal Kathryn and run off crying when I am attacked, even when the claims are baseless. I don’t cut and run. I would never stifle free speech. You can say whatever you want. You think too much of your rhetoric. You really need to get over yourself.

    -You commented: We can easily rewind to last week before I knew you were here…when your efforts garnered three or four responses each.

    -My response: My, my, for all your writing skill, your math skills appear questionable at best. Post: Now the hard part – 19 comments. Post: GOP Dead – 15 comments. Post: Trickling up – 24 comments. Fudge those numbers Kathryn for self gratification and to belittle your opposition. Facts are always so despised by the left.

    -You commented: I’m not going to let you slip into complacency even though the bulk of your readers are here for reinforcement of their own opinions and have little interest in the educated opinions of those who disagree with them.

    -My response: I’m still waiting for the educated opinions you want to bring to the discussion. Yet to see them, Mrs. Jones.

    -You commented that the blog should be called the “One Side.”

    -My response: I have never suppressed opposing points of view. I’m sorry that you are so narrowly focused on destroying those who disagree with you to recognize that fact. Or, maybe you do recognize it, but ignore it anyway. Because, after all, this is just sport for you.

  33. 33 Ray
    December 2, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Kathryn,  I’m a little late on this, but your responses really have become dissappointing and your exagerated opinion of yourself is very off-putting.  For all of your writing skills, your arguments have been very slim on substance.  Don’t get me wrong-I have enjoyed reading your opinion, but you don’t fully explain those things which you accuse the other side of doing-citing unnamed leaders and your Carl Rove statement was certainly a stretch. In other words you “paint with a broad brush.” Again, Mr Krysak is the professional and he has clearly addressed each of your complaints. Hope to see a substantive and educated response from you.  

  34. 34 Rich
    December 2, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    That is some serious “grown up talk” coming from both sides here. Alot of big words amounting to not much said. Some very intellectual “shit talking” if you will. I must say I think you’ve gotten under MR K’s skin a little though Kathy. I do have to say to you though, complaing about the use of the Englsh language in the Herald Standard? They have trouble enough getting the spelling correct(not sure who’s to blame in the end). So to bicker about grammar is really irrelevant.
    Now I have been reading this blog from the beginning as most posters on here have. There has been very little “debating the issues”. Most of the posts are attacks on the one before. This goes both ways too. I have admitted I have no great answers for this country.
    But I think we should all be very happy at this time. We are less than 6 weeks from getting rid of the WORST president this great country has ever had. You may not agree with the president elect. You may hate the president elect. But I can guarentee one thing, he can not do a worse job than the past eight years.

  35. 35 Carly
    December 3, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    You know, I’ve let this go for a really long time… everyone says, we can’t have the same as the last 8 years, “he can not do a worse job than the past eight years,” 8 years, 8 years, 8 years…BUT…we the people RE-ELECTED BUSH after the first 4 YEARS….(you see where I’m going with this?)

    point is…BUSH WAS RE-ELECTED. We saw what he did the first 4 years and RE-ELECTED him to serve 4 MORE. So maybe people should start saying that the past 4 YEARS weren’t good, or we don’t want 4 more years of the same, etc.

    BUT 8 sounds way more drastic, doesn’t it?

  36. 36 Rich
    December 3, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Carly,
    I stand corrected. The past 4 years then(even though I didn’t vote Bush in 04).

  37. 37 Carly
    December 3, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Rich – I think you’re developing a soft spot for me! That’s 3 times we’ve agreed! We must have set a record or something! haha…thanks for correcting yourself, and just for the record, When we, the people, are saying, “No More of the Past 4 Years” in 2012, I didn’t vote for Obama in 08. :o) haha.


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