20
Jan
09

the audacity of obamanation

So, I am blogging real quick this Tuesday afternoon to talk about one part of the inauguration.

Civil rights icon, the Rev. Joseph E. Lowery delivered the benediction at today’s swearing in of our 44th president, Barrack Hussein Obama.

After giving a politically ambiguous speech bedazzled with little nuggets that only Obama can seem to weave effortlessly into what then appears to be non-partisan rhetoric, our president gave way to Lowery for the benediction.

It seems that Obama just can’t keep his friends and allies from spouting off at the mouth, even when he so smoothly bamboozles the nation with his cadenced speaking and selective use of catch phrases built around hope and change.

The Rev. Joseph E. Lowery

The Rev. Joseph E. Lowery

Lowery, 87, who marched alongside Dr. Martin Luther King and helped found the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, not only invoked the Obama praise slogan, “Yes we can” while speaking, supposedly to our Lord, mind you, but he also closed his alleged prayer with some fun facts for all. Unless you are white, of course.

Here you go:

“Lord…we ask You to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around, when yellow isn’t mellow, when the red man can get ahead man and when white will embrace what is right.”

What did he just say? Honestly, what was that Mr. Lowery? I am still trying to wrap my head around such a statement. For the life of me, the only thing I can think to do is punch myself in the thigh to keep from breaking something. 

I have blogged before about wanting to take a fork to my eyes but this time I really think my wife ought to get me one of the cones they put on dogs returning from the vet. That way, I can’t gore out my ears with some blunt instrument. For the love of Pete! What a sad closing commentary for the incoming president.

Really, what have we become?

I guess that the party of tolerance cannot get over their self-indulgent tendencies regarding race. No one points out more that Obama is black than the man himself and those around him.

I, for one, am tired of being labeled a racist by those still promoting the divisions for their own gain. Don’t lecture me Mr. Lowery and please don’t lecture the American people. It is time for you to get over yourself, for the nation’s sake. No one further divides the country than those who continue to create racial tension with backhanded barbs intent only on division. And I thought we were about togetherness. How silly of me.  

And, by the way, you heard Obama today as he took his oath.

Obamania posters

Obamania posters

He pledged to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.

Whadaya say we hold him to it?

And, stay tuned for more to come this week on the inauguration and ascension of Obama, that is, of course, if I have not found a cave in the mountains to plot my evil conservative schemes on how to keep the black man and all others without white skin down and, of course, dine on live rabbits and the like. You know I do that all the time.

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39 Responses to “the audacity of obamanation”


  1. 1 Dutchrage
    January 20, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    I could not agree more. I’m on the verge of a heart attack because my blood is boiling. I can only respond to his comment with silence – the scary, dark, and angry kind.

  2. 2 Carly
    January 20, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    “when white will embrace what is right.”

    Look, I have never owned or even known any slaves, I have not discriminated against anyone, ever because of color, ethnicity, sex, etc. Racism is in the individual, it is no longer our way of life. We DO NOT have segregated bathrooms, seating on buses, schools, etc. So why haven’t we gotten over it yet? Because we haven’t been allowed to. Because someone like Rev. Lowery spouts off the way things USED to be, NOT how they are. Don’t get me wrong, I am ashamed that that’s how things used to be…but it’s not that way anymore. I thought we were all about “change”…well change the topic then, and move on. Deal with the future, not the past. And I’m sorry, it’s not just the “white people” who can be racist, yet in Lowery’s speech or prayer (if you really want to call it that) whites are the only ones who need to get it “right.”

    Well thank you, Rev. Lowery for labeling all of us by our race.

    We have black professional athletes and coaches, actors and actresses, etc. How are black people being HELD BACK? We’ve elected our first so-called black President, but now THAT’S not good enough. I thought we were MAKING HISTORY…am I incorrect? What more is it going to take to show that this nation has changed? Total Black Domination?? Getting revenge on the white people living now who had NOTHING to do with slaves and making us the slave? What is it going to take? Today’s professional African Americans (rappers, singers, actors, actresses, baseball players, football players, etc) feel saddened I’m sure that their earlier generations had to endure such cruelty, but I doubt that any of them feel personally suppressed. Not when they are making millions of dollars to do what they love to do because they are FREE.

    Let’s not forget who freed the slaves….a “white man.” Proving that even though that’s how things were, not everyone agreed it was right.

    We are NOT a racist Nation. I’m sure Racism still exists in some INDIVIDUALS. And those Individuals can be Black, Red, Yellow, Brown, White, etc.

    Rev. Lowery, Bishop Robinson, I will Pray for both of you, you both seem a little misguided.

  3. January 20, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    YEEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The only explanation I can remotely attempt to fathom why a Reverend would spew some more ‘black racism’ upon an otherwise historic event such as a presidential inauguration (black or white), is the man is 87, maybe he has dementia….

    He displays some of the classic signs and symptoms:
    1. Living in the past, usually when the demented person was most productive, which would put him back somewhere in the 1950-1960’s. Which is exactly where his speech overtones shadow, letting the black man “sit up front” and “when white accept what is right”.
    2. Speaking in a rhyming mode. Some demented individuals find this soothing sometimes.

    As I mentioned in the past, this sense of “entitlement” sends me into a ballistic mode. I am certain the majority of the American voters for this past election were indeed (shall I even say it), WHITE.

    As long as these individuals are aloud to voice their obvious dispise for the white man, there will continue to be this shroud of black versus white. Which seems to be perpetuated by the likes of Rev. Joseph E. Lowery, and so many others…

    Carly, I am reading your ending statement referring to Rev. Lowery, Bishop Robinson being a “little misguided”.

    I call it downright hateful…

    Gotta’ go load up my 20 gauge and git ready! we’re celebratin’ tonite wit some possum stew.

  4. 4 Chas
    January 20, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot CHANGE!

  5. 5 CJ
    January 21, 2009 at 9:32 am

    Well, I woke up this morning looking forward to a new day under a new President.

    I was hopeful that change has finally come.

    I have heard for 8 years that it was Bush’s fault that gas prices were high, the stock market was low, and everything else that sucked in life was caused by Bush.

    So, I woke up this morning and drove to the gas station with my car on empty and 10 five gallon gas cans to fill up on the 25 cent per gallon gas that was sure to be there, since Obama is now President.

    But, lo and behold, gas was still $1.85 a gallon!!!!

    How could this be?

    The media and all the liberal political scientists have told us that it was the oilman Bush’s fault that gas was high, so doesn’t it make sense that since Bush is out of power and Obama is in that gas prices should bottom out?

    Well, we still have the stock market which should rebound to record highs today and turn my $150k 401k in to about $150 million by Friday, because everyone knows that Bush caused this financial mess and Obama is the savior to fix it.

    I will be sure to let you all know that unlike our local politicians, I will remember the little people when I become stinking wealthy overnight thanks to President Obama.

    I am writing Obama, Rendell, Casey, Murtha, and Specter and ask them where I can find the 25 cent Obama gas that they promised we would have, if we elected Obama.

  6. January 21, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Most of my Black contemporaries have chided me, an Anglo women, that I “don’t understand”; that I will “never understand” the “Black Experience”.

    My response? I tell them, “neither do you”.

    I was five…maybe six when there were massive Civil Rights marches in Selma, AL and throughout the South. A few even here in Texas. I distinctly remember watching news reports of police beating the crap out of black men and women. They were attacked by vicious police dogs and were sprayed with fire hoses that with water that shot out at such a velocity, they were immobilized. Some even had skin removed from the force.

    My contemporaries have only known life after the struggle. They’ve never known about sitting in the back of the bus, drinking out of separate water fountains or segregation in any significant way.

    I doubt if Rev. Lowery’s speech was properly vetted prior to his address and if that’s case, it was an egregious error. If it was vetted and allowed through as is, that was colossally wrong in scope. It put out the wrong message.

    As a Civil Rights advocate back in the days of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, I suppose I can understand his anger and rage. But to utter it, to allow it in the final address in the inauguration of this country’s first half Black president was the wrong place and time. I fear it’ll stir up old wounds, on BOTH sides of the color spectrum.

    Good luck Obama. I pray water doesn’t seek it’s own level, but I know it will. And whether it does or doesn’t is really of no consequence. You can walk on water, right?

    LK

  7. 7 Willie
    January 21, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Gosh! How wonderful it must be for you and Carly never to have experienced in lily-white Fayette County what the Rev. Lowery and past generations in this country have experienced!! (Nor have I, frankly, but I think my mind is a lot more open on the matter. But I realize things like white kids being killed a decade before I was born because they tried to help register blacks to vote.) What an ignorant comment Carly, in particular, made about whether “Total Black Domination” will be what it takes to show the nation has changed.

    I guess it does speak to some of the great strides the country has made because we can have this silly little debate about whether whites are being given a subtle smackdown. (And, by the way, Obama must be successful in ticking off both sides of the political spectrum! How soon we forget all about the selection of Pastor Rick Warren, and how much that upset the gay community.)

    By the way, it seemed like a simple statement to me. In essence, “let’s hope whites are serious about equality in all facets of life, not just in this one instance of electing a multicultural president.”

    Yeah, you don’t own a slave, Carly, but you own a role in your community, and you own the responsibility — and desire, I hope — of continuing to build a more inclusive society in which all people have the opportunity to create the best life possible. That’s what Lowery is saying.

    Sure, a lot of this stuff is history to anyone born after 1970, but it ain’t ancient history! Few things annoy me more than whites sitting around complaining about how blacks are OK because they can make a buck slamming a b-ball, or whites complaining about reverse racism, or whites spouting off that they understand what it’s like to be black. We don’t.

    I don’t discount that race is inappropriately tossed out as a political play at times — Congressman Rush’s comments about how a failure to seat Sen. Burris signaled racism was an example — but I think we need to need to go beyond our own limited perspectives here. I know Gov. Palin is a bit of a punching bag for many in the media, but with women STILL earning less than men for equal work, don’t you think some of the same themes would have been applied to the sexes if she were sworn in yesterday as vice president?

    Hey, it’s still a pretty damn good thing to be a white male in America. I don’t know where you’re living if you don’t see that.

    I recognize some of the frustration in Josh’s and Carly’s posts is geared toward media treatment of a Democratic president. And there’s a significant debate to be had there. If there’s a political argument, have at it! But let’s not kid ourselves that Obama is finally the 40 acres and a mule that wipe out a lot of pitiful moments in our country’s history. And let’s not pretend to understand what it’s like to be black in THIS country and see a man with a black father become president.

  8. 8 Tree Hugger
    January 21, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    Dear Josh,

    Your contempt and hatred for our President is apparent.

    What I find truly sad in your post is that on such a historic day the one thing you chose to write about and define your day is how someone supposedly called you a racist. There were so many other things you could have taken away from this experience – like marveling at the fact that with so many people in one place there was not one arrest. Or how the Bush daughters wrote a letter to the Obama daughters telling them to remember who their dad really is. Even when others may say horrible things about him he is still their dad. Or how Senator Kennedy had to be taken to the hospital or how after all the people left the area there it was sad to see so much trash on the ground.

    Most importantly you could have written about the overwhelming emotion felt by so many people who have lived through atrocities in American history and lived to see a black man become President of the United States. Something that could only be dreamed by them just 50 to 60 years ago. The feeling that they must have had is something that you and I (being white) cannot possibly begin to imagine. Our nation was created through so many racist actions: the genocide of the American Indians, slavery, Dred Scott, Jim Crow, etc. I am so glad that I am much different than you. I came away from this historic day with alot of pride in knowing that change has come for many.

    I feel sorry for you that you cannot feel empathy for people who have suffered through so much. The man is 87 years old and worked with Martin Luther King. We cannot begin to know how he feels. In African-American culture, the ending Reverend Lowery gave to his benediction was referential and meaningful to African-Americans. He expressed a thought process that began in slavery, as Africans were taught to be slaves, and to seek value in skin color, texture of hair and shade of eye color. Immortalized in song and literature, the phrases he used are instantly familiar to Black people of the Boomer Generation, and caused the chuckles you may have heard when he spoke them. He may have been reversing an old saying….
    “If you’re white, you’re alright
    If you’re brown, stick around
    If you’re yellow, you’re mellow
    But if you’re black, get back”

    If you do not fit the statement, don’t take offense. You do a disservice to yourself.

    And as a sidenote: I find that the people who most often begin a sentence with “I’ve never been prejudiced” or “we’ve never been racist”, followed by “BUT…”, are either obfuscating their true sentiment or looking for a way to excuse the trash that’s about to spill out from their mouth

    Sincerely – A Proud American who supports President Barack Hussein Obama

  9. 9 Carly
    January 21, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Willie,

    My comment of “Total Black Domination” was an exaggeration, not meant to be ignorant. I would never want any race to be dominate over others. However, I ask you, and anyone else for that matter…what will it take? I am not a racist, therefore, I do not see racism….I do not DWELL on it. Maybe it’s because I’m white, I don’t know. But I view people as their individual selves. I DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA…NOT BECAUSE HE’S BLACK…but because I view him as the individual that he is and I disagree with him, however, do you know how many people consider me racist?

    I was simply saying that Lowery once again, pointed out racism & made it the focus as it has been throughout the election…and he did so in a “prayer.” He wasn’t saying he hopes that we can continue in the same direction, he said “when white will embrace what is right.” – meaning we haven’t yet. He didn’t say that we are getting it right and he hopes we continue to do so…You can interpret it however you want….I took it as an insult to all the hard work we’ve already been doing to be more “inclusive.” I think the man he marched with, Mr. Martin Luther King Jr. would be proud of our progress and would not have said such harsh things.

    I am shocked that, since you are much more open-minded than I (according to you), you didn’t feel sad that YOUR efforts have gone unnoticed..and that you, along with the rest of the nation were basically slapped on the hand and told we aren’t doing good enough.

    You’re right about one thing, I do HOPE that racism one day will not exist…the thing that frustrates me is….it’s always talked about…how can we move forward and focus on a better future while dwelling on the past?

    I grew up with good morals and good family values, my parents always instilled in me that everyone is equal. At a time where racism was more rampant in our society, my father’s wedding party was all black except for one white friend. I grew up proud of my dad for that and proud of myself that I too was accepting of all races. But excuse me if I am bitter that I am still generalized as a racist because I am white.

    Willie: “And, by the way, Obama must be successful in ticking off both sides of the political spectrum! How soon we forget all about the selection of Pastor Rick Warren, and how much that upset the gay community.”

    My Response: No, no, Willie, I did not forget. If you read the end of my post I say I will pray for both Rev. Lowery and Bishop Robinson. Robinson is the gay bishop that Obama included in this weekend’s festivities to make it up to the gay community for his choice of Rick Warren. Which makes me wonder how strong Obama’s convictions are. I hope he knows you can’t make everyone happy, not even if you do the right thing or treat people equally.

  10. 10 Tree Hugger
    January 21, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Laurie said “My contemporaries have only known life after the struggle. They’ve never known about sitting in the back of the bus, drinking out of separate water fountains or segregation in any significant way.”

    Response – You may be right Laurie BUT the one thing different from you and them is that they have family members who DID LIVE through that struggle. You and I (being white) cannot begin to understand the feeling that they have. Don’t dismiss their feelings because THEY did not live it themselves. I can remember my great grandmother telling me stories of how she struggled through the depression. It affected me greatly to know that many days she went hungry so that she could feed her children instead. Your “contemporaries” have heard the stories that their parents and grandparents have told them about their personal experiences. You should be a little more empathetic.

  11. 11 Tree Hugger
    January 21, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Carly – you asked Willie “you didn’t feel sad that YOUR efforts have gone unnoticed..and that you, along with the rest of the nation were basically slapped on the hand and told we aren’t doing good enough”.

    Maybe Willie does things from his/her heart as do I so we do not feel that our “efforts” as you say need to be noticed or told that we are “doing good enough”

  12. 12 Carly
    January 21, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Oh Tree Hugger…I did not say our efforts NEED to be noticed….but our efforts also do not need thrown back in our face….it’s called regression.

    It’s like a man or wife who cheats…almost destroying the marriage but they try to work things out…the first thing a therapist will tell you is that you have to let it go…you have to not throw it back in each other’s faces…..or the marriage won’t work out. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not comparing the extremity of racism to cheating as equals…I’m simply trying to point out that pointing fingers and drudging up the past doesn’t help moving forward. Not once you’ve talked things out, dealt with the problem and have decided to move on.

    Whether you are white, black, brown, yellow, a redman, etc….speeches like the one Lowery gave at the end are only setting us back. ALL OF US. I’d say the same thing if a white man gave that speech, say for instance if Rick Warren said that, I’d be upset with him as well….

    I also asked what it’s going to take to put the racism card away for good, do you have an answer for that like everything else? How much time is enough time? What needs to happen, I’d seriously like to know.

    As far as your comments to Josh about his blog and how he would have to dwell on a negative on this historical day……what? are you kidding me? If you did not vote for Obama and you do not think he’s going to be a good President, why would you be happy? Yes, I am happy for the African Americans who voted for him and who feel happy that this day has come, however I personally am NOT HAPPY. Don’t get me wrong, when Beyonce was crying and all emotional, I teared up because seeing someone so happy makes me happy….but that doesn’t mean I have to view things the same way she did, or you do, or Willie does… I am not going to throw away my beliefs and jump up and down for this day when I think he’s going to be bad for our country. And as I’ve said before, I hope that I am wrong, I hope he does a wonderful job and I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it, and it will be THEN that I look back and think, “what a remarkable day.”

  13. 13 Tree Hugger
    January 21, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Carly… I never once mentioned in any post that Josh should be happy. As I stated his contempt and hatred for our President are apparent so I would never expect him to be happy. I expected nothing more from Josh than what he gave us.

  14. 14 Carly
    January 21, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    My apologies, Tree Hugger. I must have taken your general message of it being a historical day and how you say, “Most importantly you could have written about the overwhelming emotion felt by so many people who have lived through atrocities in American history and lived to see a black man become President of the United States” and combined it with comments I’ve been hearing around.

    Although, that statement of yours brings up a question…in a response to Laurie you write: “You and I (being white) cannot begin to understand the feeling that they have. Don’t dismiss their feelings because THEY did not live it themselves.” Yet you want Josh to write about “the overwhelming emotion felt by so many people who lived through atrocities in American history and have lived to see a black man become President”….according to your comment to Laurie, Josh cannot because he doesn’t KNOW what it feels like.

    You told Laurie and Josh that they need to be more empathetic:

    Josh: “I feel sorry for you that you cannot feel empathy for people who have suffered through so much.”

    Laurie: “You should be a little more empathetic.”

    Well, Tree, where is your empathy towards us who feel we have been labeled yet again as racist and are saddened by that not only personally but for the progress of our country? Have you no empathy for us?

  15. 15 Tree Hugger
    January 21, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Carly, evidently you need to read all my posts again or I need to make myself more clear. Your post above states that I wanted Josh to write about the “overwhelming emotion felt by so many people etc” That is not what I said. To be totally clear, I mentioned several things that he could have chosen to write about. He gives the impression that this was the only thing from the day that he could walk away with. How sad for him. Actually, I could care less if Josh ever wrote another word but I am sure he will. I just wonder why is it that you/he take the remark soooooooo personally? I am sure that black people were called alot worse than racist for alot longer than you have been around.

  16. 16 Carly
    January 21, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    TREE, sorry I didn’t say, “you mentioned that Josh COULD write about the emotions”..blah blah blah. But it WAS one of the topics you mentioned that he COULD write about…I was simply stating that according to you…NO, he couldn’t because he doesn’t know how it feels.

    Back at you though..why do you take what Josh or I or anyone for that matter posts so personally? You’ve argued or debated with 3 or 4 of us on how WE FEEL….what does it matter to you? If you truly believe this statement of yours: Maybe Willie does things from his/her heart as do I so we do not feel that our “efforts” as you say need to be noticed or told that we are “doing good enough”…then why argue with US? Why not just know in your heart what is right and leave it at that?

    Also, I notice you’ve been ignoring my questions and just correcting my responses to your responses.

    In your opinion Tree, because seriously I do really want to get some ideas here, how will racism end? What needs to happen? What is it going to take? I know you don’t have all the answers, but I would like your opinion. When are black people finally going to be free and equal and when are white people finally going to be free from the labels?

    To answer your question:

    I take it personally because I am being labeled as something I am not..I’ve said that in my previous posts….I take it personally because I don’t like being held responsible for something I cannot control or wasn’t even a part of….I take it personally because I would LOVE for everyone to move beyond racism…I take it personally because I have never once mistreated someone because of race, sex, orientation….I take it personally because I care about people and would never condone racist behavior….I take it personally because I have feelings too and when something mean or insulting is said towards me or directed to my race or religion I feel sad……I take it personally because I am a person part of a group that was singled out as not embracing what is right.

    So are you…and just because YOU don’t feel sad, bad, mad, etc…doesn’t mean that I can’t. I was insulted by Rev. Lowery, if you weren’t good for you, I’m not going to tell you you should…just like you can’t tell me not to feel the way I do.

  17. 17 Rich
    January 21, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    WOW. A little poem that an 87 year old has probaly been using for the last 20 years really fired you folks up?? I mean,the stuff this man had to go through 60 years ago, let him have his moment. Whether you were happy about it or not, this was a historical day in American history. I must agree with the post questioning why of all the speeches and moments of the day, Josh had to focus on this one. Let’s face it, we have made great strides in the last 50 years as far as racism goes. However, it does still exist and most likely will for some time to come. To rid the world of racism we would have to rid the world of ignorance. Just looking around Fayette County, that looks like a mountain too high to climb.

  18. 18 CJ
    January 21, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    1460 Days left until a new President is sworn in….hopefully a DIFFERENT President.

  19. January 22, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Children, am I going to have to put you in the “time out chair”???

    First, I would like to direct my comment to ‘Willie’. Willie, your comments are sincere, obviously through experience. You made some good points, and you also made some emotional ones, that aren’t so good. I also agree that ‘Carly’s’ comment regarding “total black domination” was “ignorant”. I honestly believe hers too, was an emotional response. Not out of hatred for anyone, black or white, more out of frustration. Let me provide to you some of your examples:
    ” lily white Fayette County”- emotional response, totally uncalled for.
    ” Hey, it’s still a pretty damned good thing to be a white male in America”- Really Willie, Really ???
    ” I recognize some of the frustration in Josh and Carly’s Post is geared toward the media treatment of a Democratic President. And there’s a significant debate to be had there. If there’s a political argument, have at it”!- Willie, isn’t that what this blog is about???

    Willie, these words were typed from your thoughts. Quite frankly, I too, am tired of the ‘reverse racism’. I thought the Rev. Lowery speech was completly inappropriate at such a somber time. I would even say it was a perfect example of ‘reverse racism’, in such a humbling moment as a presidential inauguration, that could have gone flawlessly, except for that.

    I believe you are a good, honest man, black or white. That is not the issue my man, it’s all about showing a little tact, honor, and dignity.

    Carly…

    Why, oh why, do you respond to ‘Tree’. I would compare it to beating my head off a brick wall. I have faith in you girl. It’s like arguing with a two year old!!!!!
    She/He obviously has their opinion, and their entitled to it. But to respond to it only invokes more worthless response. Or is that what you want? You have nothing to prove to anyone! You too, are also entitled to your opinion… Leave it at that.

  20. 20 Bill W.
    January 22, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Willie you are a twisted person. Mule and 40 acres? First of all I am white, never owned a slave and yes never had to sit in the back of the bus. Is that what we have to do now. “ALL WHITE MUST FROM THIS DAY FOREWORD FOR A PERIOD AS LONG AS THE BLACK FOLK DID, MUST SIT AT THE BACK OF THE BUS!” Come on give me a break! Yes that bad stuff happened. So did the Trail of Tears by the Indians and “WE the People” put US citizens in detainment camps here too. Our country is littered with the mistakes of the past and so is the country of Africa.
    Oh and by the way, Obama is only half African American. Why does he call himself Black? Is black better? He is more proud of that? I guess so. He is probably proud that the prisons are filled with over half black offenders but the country is only what 15-20 black? Probably proud that (from what I see everyday) that the black youth seem to take no responsibility for themselves or for the baby’s that they make and fail to take care of.
    We could talk about unemployment rate in black vs. white, but that’s our fault too because the whites are keeping the black man (and women) down. What is surprising to me is that Obama’s father showed up to be there. If the other Proud Black Men of the country were there for their children maybe we would not have some of these problems. The handouts that some (not all) take are from Uncle Sam who by the looks of it is white. So the next time you want to rag on the white people who had to sit in the front of the bus half a century ago. Just remember they were in a hurry, they had to go to work, see their children, build a country, get a job, and put up with the whining from the back of the bus!
    P.S. Josh you ARE the big island. I am but sand bar off your shore!

  21. 21 Carly
    January 22, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Kate, because unlike Tree, when I am asked a question or when I am asked for my opinion or even to elaborate on my opinion, I try to oblige. Yes, it gets frustrating and I did bang my head off of my keyboard a bit yesterday, but it’s who I am. I defend myself when I can, not trying to prove myself to anyone other than me.

    I’m sorry that my responses to Tree subject you to worthless response…I’ll try to be more careful of the battles I choose!

  22. 22 Tree Hugger
    January 22, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    As I stated before – I find that the people who most often begin a sentence with “I’ve never been prejudiced” or “we’ve never been racist”, followed by “BUT…”, are either obfuscating their true sentiment or looking for a way to excuse the trash that’s about to spill out from their mouth.

    Carly – first of all you are missing my whole point. You keep questioning me about how can Josh write about something he does not feel. That was NOT my point. Do you think I have time to write about every single thing that he could have chosen besides the small minute negative aspect that he chose? I am just saying that he chose to write about something so small that could have been overlooked because of WHO was saying it and what they had been through in their life. If you read my other post I also added the little saying that black people have heard over and over for years and said that maybe he was just turning it around.

    As usual Josh likes to write about negativity and anything that can incite hatred and contempt for our President. I know you are his wife as you made that totally clear in a previous post – do you fight all his battles for him? I never directed my question to you.

    Someone told me that your hero Rush Limbaugh stated he can sum up the innauguration in 4 words “I hope they Fail” If he did say that is he not saying he hopes America fails? What a patriot. Believe me people if Rush Limbaugh could make more money slandering the Right Side HE WOULD. I have a feeling that Josh is alot like Rush.

    Some of you people just don’t get it. And with an Obama 84% approval rating I would say that unfortunately some of YOU are becoming the minority!

  23. 23 Tree Hugger
    January 22, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Rich, I am with you man. Do you think some of these folks have ever left Fayette County to see the REAL WORLD besides for their vacation to the same little spot each year?

  24. 24 Tree Hugger
    January 22, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Carly said – In your opinion Tree, because seriously I do really want to get some ideas here, how will racism end? What needs to happen?

    Response – To be totally direct with you Carly and to answer a question that you feel I am avading. I don’t know how to end racism but I know that we can help put an end to bad feelings if people like you get a little humble and bite your tongue when you want to lash out and say how it is not like that anymore so they should just get over it!!!!!!! Do you think you would say to victims of the holocaust, apartheid or various other atrocities – just get over it because you did not live through it?

    Both sides must put an end to racism and racist thoughts.

  25. 25 WonderWoman
    January 22, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Wow, there is so much that can be said from everyone’s posts here.

    One thing that Bill W. said that I have been thinking as well: “Obama is only half African American.” Obama was raised by his white mother and white grandparents. They are responsible for his upbringing. They are the ones who encouraged him throughout his life.

    Playing Devil’s Advocate here, was Reverend Lowery insulting Obama? Maybe Obama isn’t black enough for his liking and the White People and the Nation still have to get it right someday by electing a Black Enough man?

    Now for those who say he’s 87 and just an old man who changed a poem or whatever was said, doesn’t someone approve what will be read and what will be said at the inauguration? I’ve heard that all speeches were to be approved. Now, I ask you, if we truly want to bring the Nation together, why was that poem, that DIVIDED all the races, allowed to be read?

    I have to be honest, when I heard that speech or prayer, I should say, I wasn’t furious, I simply rolled my eyes and said, “of course.” I was expecting the race card to be played at some point during the ceremony. I’ve gotten so used to it in this election, however, it seems like it surprised a few people here.

    You know the funny thing, I truly believe that if I were an African American, I would be just as upset with the race card. I wouldn’t want white people or anyone else for that matter thinking that they had such an affect on me. I wouldn’t want to accredit my success to the white man for “letting me succeed.”

  26. 26 Willie
    January 22, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    I figured y’all might be interested in this commentary…

    What Obama Brings to Conservatives
    A bipartisan racial success story.

    By Jonah Goldberg

    I am proud of and excited by the fact that we have inaugurated the first black president of the United States. He wasn’t my first choice, but he is nonetheless my president. And if ever there were a wonderful consolation prize in politics, shattering the race barrier in the White House is surely it.

    Conservatives who try too hard to belittle the importance of this milestone are mistaken on several fronts. First, this is simply a wonderful—and wonderfully American—story. Any political movement that is joyless about what this represents risks succumbing to bitter political crankery.

    For instance, you will not soon see a German chancellor of Turkish descent. Nor will a child of North African immigrants soon take the reins of power in France. It will be a long time before a Pakistani or Indian last name appears on the mailbox at 10 Downing St. And yet these countries bubble over with haughty finger-waggers eager to lecture backward and provincial America about race and tolerance. Why not enjoy rubbing Barack Obama in their faces?

    Of course, there’s a partisan angle to Obama’s presidency—he is the head of the Democratic Party, after all—but his success comes on the heels of a bipartisan racial success story. For instance, President Bush appointed the first African American secretaries of state.

    As Obama loves to observe, America is more indivisible and united than many would have us think. “We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the Stars and Stripes, all of us defending the United States of America,” he proclaimed in his career-making keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic convention.

    It only follows that George Bush’s America is also Barack Obama’s America, and vice versa. That’s an important lesson not only for foreign observers but for domestic partisans.

    More important, opponents of racial quotas and other champions of colorblindness on the right should be popping champagne nearly as much as racial liberals are. Yes, yes, Obama’s a passionate defender of affirmative action and the like, but the symbolism of his presidency cannot be contained within narrow liberal agendas.

    “There is an entire generation that will grow up taking for granted that the highest office in the land is filled by an African American,” he told the Washington Post last week. “I mean, that’s a radical thing. It changes how black children look at themselves. It also changes how white children look at black children. And I wouldn’t underestimate the force of that.”

    Neither would I. The media understandably, if tediously, focus on how Obama’s presidency is a deathblow to the legacy of official discrimination and racism. True enough. But the fact that a black man can become president of the United States may also be transgressive to all sorts of more relevant racial orthodoxies on the left and in the black community.

    Obama’s personal example is only part of the equation. He has voiced an admirable disdain for the notion that academic excellence is nothing more than “acting white.” His famous Father’s Day speech in 2008 showed that Obama was willing to lend his voice to the effort to fight black illegitimacy and absentee fatherhood.

    This puts Obama behind the two most important ingredients for black success, at least according to most conservatives: a rededication to the importance of education at an individual level, and the restoration of the black nuclear family.

    At a more political level, a black president surely undermines the argument that American racism is so endemic that a system of racial quotas must remain a permanent fixture of the political and legal landscape.

    Obama is most frequently compared to Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt. But he also has compared himself to Ronald Reagan, saying he’d like to be a similarly transformative leader, albeit from a different ideological perspective. Only time will tell how successful he will be on that front.

    But the analogy may be apt in ways that he and his supporters may not fully appreciate. By hastening the end of the Cold War, Reagan took away the defining cause of the conservative movement. The right had other issues, to be sure. But anti-communism was the coalitional glue. And while principled conservatives were happy to trade a live campaign issue for a dead Soviet Union, the damage to conservative cohesion was real.

    If Obama lives up to the dreams of his supporters in writing a new, post-racial chapter for America, he will have at once done more for America than any Democratic president in generations. But he also will have cut the knot holding much of the left together. As an American and as a conservative, I certainly hope that’s the case. He’s already made a good start of it just by getting elected.

    — Jonah Goldberg is editor-at-large of National Review Online and the author of Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left from Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning.

  27. 27 Willie
    January 22, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Michelle Malkin had a blog that also questioned Lowery’s passage. Here’s the song one reader sent her, with lyrics from lyricstime.com

    This little song that i’m singin’ about,
    People you know it’s true
    If you’re black and gotta work for a living,
    This is what they will say to you,
    They says, “if you was white, should be all right,
    If you was brown, stick around,
    But as you’s black, hmm brother, get back, get back, get back”
    I was in a place one night
    They was all having fun
    They was all buyin’ beer and wine,
    But they would not sell me none
    They said, “if you was white, should be all right,
    If you was brown, stick around,
    But if you black, hmm brother, get back, get back, get back”
    Me and a man was workin’ side by side
    This is what it meant
    They was paying him a dollar an hour,
    And they was paying me fifty cent
    They said, “if you was white, ‘t should be all right,
    If you was brown, could stick around,
    But as you black, hmm boy, get back, get back, get back”
    I went to an employment office,
    Got a number ‘n’ i got in line
    They called everybody’s number,
    But they never did call mine
    They said, “if you was white, should be all right,
    If you was brown, could stick around,
    But as you black, hmm brother, get back, get back, get back”
    I hope when sweet victory,
    With my plough and hoe
    Now i want you to tell me brother,
    What you gonna do about the old jim crow?
    Now if you was white, should be all right,
    If you was brown, could stick around,
    But if you black, whoa brother, get back, get back, get back

  28. 28 Willie
    January 22, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Here’s Lowery’s prayer in full, according to Catholic.org

    Inaugural Benediction by Rev. Joseph E. Lowery
    1/20/2009

    WASHINGTON, D.C. (Catholic Online) – We present the transcript of the Benediction at the Inauguration of the 44th President President of the United States,President Barack Obama, which was given by one of the heroes of the Civil Rights struggle in America, Rev. Joseph E. Lowery of Atlanta:

    God of our weary years, God of our silent tears, thou who has brought us thus far along the way, thou who has by thy might led us into the light, keep us forever in the path, we pray, lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met thee, lest our hearts, drunk with the wine of the world, we forget thee. Shadowed beneath thy hand may we forever stand — true to thee, O God, and true to our native land.

    We truly give thanks for the glorious experience we’ve shared this day. We pray now, O Lord, for your blessing upon thy servant, Barack Obama, the 44th president of these United States, his family and his administration. He has come to this high office at a low moment in the national and, indeed, the global fiscal climate. But because we know you got the whole world in your hand, we pray for not only our nation, but for the community of nations. Our faith does not shrink, though pressed by the flood of mortal ills.

    For we know that, Lord, you’re able and you’re willing to work through faithful leadership to restore stability, mend our brokenness, heal our wounds and deliver us from the exploitation of the poor or the least of these and from favoritism toward the rich, the elite of these.

    We thank you for the empowering of thy servant, our 44th president, to inspire our nation to believe that, yes, we can work together to achieve a more perfect union. And while we have sown the seeds of greed — the wind of greed and corruption, and even as we reap the whirlwind of social and economic disruption, we seek forgiveness and we come in a spirit of unity and solidarity to commit our support to our president by our willingness to make sacrifices, to respect your creation, to turn to each other and not on each other.

    And now, Lord, in the complex arena of human relations, help us to make choices on the side of love, not hate; on the side of inclusion, not exclusion; tolerance, not intolerance.

    And as we leave this mountaintop, help us to hold on to the spirit of fellowship and the oneness of our family. Let us take that power back to our homes, our workplaces, our churches, our temples, our mosques, or wherever we seek your will.

    Bless President Barack, First Lady Michelle. Look over our little, angelic Sasha and Malia.

    We go now to walk together, children, pledging that we won’t get weary in the difficult days ahead. We know you will not leave us alone, with your hands of power and your heart of love.

    Help us then, now, Lord, to work for that day when nation shall not lift up sword against nation, when tanks will be beaten into tractors, when every man and every woman shall sit under his or her own vine and fig tree, and none shall be afraid; when justice will roll down like waters and righteousness as a mighty stream.

    Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around — (laughter) — when yellow will be mellow — (laughter) — when the red man can get ahead, man — (laughter) — and when white will embrace what is right.

    Let all those who do justice and love mercy say amen.

  29. 29 Carly
    January 22, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Tree, do not act like you know me or that you have me figured out…You do NOT.

    Rush Limbaugh is far from my HERO. Don’t generalize me as a RUSH follower just because I’m conservative….

    You are missing MY point not that blacks should completely get over it, it IS part of their culture, I understand that…I didn’t mean contact the Men In Black and have it wiped out of our or their memories, but we need to get to point where it’s not focused on. We need to PROGRESS NOT REGRESS!!!!

    I don’t know why you fight me so much when we both want the same thing. We want Racism to end, correct? So sue me if I feel that Rev. Lowery’s poem was insulting…News Flash..I’m allowed to think that.

    As far as Josh goes, NO, he can fight his own battles, and he chooses his more carefully than I. He doesn’t ask me to stand up for him, and I’m sure at times I even embarrass him a little. I’m sorry if that my standing up for my husband bothers you, but I am a LOVING wife who isn’t afraid to stick up for her man when I feel he is right or has every right to say the things he does….or if I AGREE with him. I am so sick of liberals blasting me for who I am and for sticking up for my husband….THAT is why I identified myself because my husband basically was bullied by people (liberals) who were mad that I could “hide” in anonymity. Because “Carly” is so vague. I have also stood up for anonymous people in past blogs…not just my husband.

    Tree, I don’t think I’ve ever attacked your character…i don’t think I’ve ever called you a name or said things to try and make you feel like a horrible person, YOU on the other hand, that’s your biggest weapon, putting others down, here, have a look:

    Tree: “put an end to bad feelings if people like you get a little humble and bite your tongue”
    Tree: “I am so glad that I am much different than you”
    Tree: “I feel sorry for you that you cannot feel empathy for people who have suffered through so much.”
    Tree: “You should be a little more empathetic.”
    Tree: “Believe me people if Rush Limbaugh could make more money slandering the Right Side HE WOULD. I have a feeling that Josh is alot like Rush.”
    Tree: “Some of you people just don’t get it.”- is that like when McCain called Obama “That One?”
    should we now make a big fuss about that?

    Insults, and pompousness is all you have, Tree. You think you are so much better than everyone else, yet we’re supposed to be equals…it’s sad, and I feel sorry for YOU.

    Oh, and Tree, trust me I am humble and I bite my tongue more than you know.

    Now before poor Kate goes crazy, I am done having these stupid little arguments with you. Until you can convey your opinion without slamming on the rest of the bloggers and their character here, I am not going to play your immature game anymore.

  30. 30 joshkrysak
    January 22, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Willie said: How wonderful it must be for you and Carly never to have experienced in lily-white Fayette County what the Rev. Lowery and past generations in this country have experienced!! (Nor have I, frankly, but I think my mind is a lot more open on the matter.)

    – Willie, why do liberals resort to the same tactics of character assassination rather than backing arguments with substance? Is it because, when confronted with the truth, they cannot find an argument to stand on other than, “You’re a meanie!” I’m glad you have such a high opinion of your mind and I would not venture to guess how open it might be. Maybe you should not assume how open mine is.

    Willie described Lowery’s prayer as a “subtle smackdown.”

    – Remember Willie, this is a prayer. I don’t think any smack talk is necessary. And subtle smackdown? Is that even possible? That’s like saying a woman who just found out she is having a baby is “slightly pregnant.” It is either a smackdown or not.

    Willie said: If there’s a political argument, have at it! But let’s not kid ourselves that Obama is finally the 40 acres and a mule that wipe out a lot of pitiful moments in our country’s history. And let’s not pretend to understand what it’s like to be black in THIS country…

    – My argument was political. Lowery was speaking on an international stage at a time when we are supposedly promoting togetherness and responsibility, neither of which was apparent in his prayer. You can’t have it both ways. If it is not alright for one race, it is not alright for another. Case closed. Imagine if a white person would have said something similar to Lowery’s statement. It would still be the lead story on the evening news. I’m sure Jessie and Al would already be marching, calling for inquisitions and firings. But, hey, we have a rough racial history so lets give a pass on this one. Right?

    Treehugger said: Your contempt and hatred for our President is apparent.

    – I do have contempt for a smug, unquestioned, unqualified man spouting socialism in masked forms becoming the president of my country. I do not, however, hate him. I pray for his safety and health and pray that he is successful as the leader of our nation. Remember, I do live here. If I was in a boat in the middle of the ocean and it was a bad boat full of holes and could barely keep me out of the water would I therefore destroy it? No, because then I would drown.

    Treehugger said: Most importantly you could have written about the overwhelming emotion felt by so many people who have lived through atrocities in American history and lived to see a black man become President of the United States. Something that could only be dreamed by them just 50 to 60 years ago. The feeling that they must have had is something that you and I (being white) cannot possibly begin to imagine.

    – I agree with you here. While I am not happy that Obama is the president, I do recognize the historical significance of the moment in our nation’s history and I am proud that race, at least for me, has never played a role in my view of the world and appears to be a non-issue. It is, I believe, a great and final step toward equality in the U.S.

    Treehugger said: I feel sorry for you that you cannot feel empathy for people who have suffered through so much. The man is 87 years old and worked with Martin Luther King. We cannot begin to know how he feels.

    – I don’t make excuses Treehugger and neither should you. You are quick to call a spade a spade when they disagree with you but apparently not able to recognize the racist undercurrent in Lowery’s so-called prayer. I don’t have tolerance for those who hide behind sins in the past to validate sins in the present.

    Treehugger said: And as a sidenote: I find that the people who most often begin a sentence with “I’ve never been prejudiced” or “we’ve never been racist”, followed by “BUT…”, are either obfuscating their true sentiment or looking for a way to excuse the trash that’s about to spill out from their mouth

    – Just because liberals and apparently people you talk to start hate speech with disclaimers does not mean that I do. Why is it that liberals are tolerant of everyone and everything except conservative viewpoints?

    Treehugger said: As usual Josh likes to write about negativity and anything that can incite hatred and contempt for our President.

    – This could not be farther from the truth. I simply try to balance the reality of the Obama presidency with the ultra-positive spin from the mainstream press. I will take to task anyone, Republican or Democrat, who is not properly serving me, as an American voter. I will also give credit to both sides when they do what I deem in the best interest of the nation. I am fair. Read through my posts if you want proof.

    Treehugger said: Someone told me that your hero Rush Limbaugh stated he can sum up the innauguration in 4 words “I hope they Fail” If he did say that is he not saying he hopes America fails? What a patriot. Believe me people if Rush Limbaugh could make more money slandering the Right Side HE WOULD. I have a feeling that Josh is alot like Rush.

    – You apparently have skills that far exceed mine. I do know Rush Limbaugh’s heart or his motives. I’m so glad you also know my heart and my motives. Seriously though, you are right. I am just like a hate-mongering, right wing, religious zealot simply trying to make a buck by slandering and destroying any liberal in my path. If the libs give me more money I will immediately become a liberal pinko commie slandering and destroying any conservative in front of me. You caught me treehugger. It is all about the Benjamins for me. You truly are gifted. (For the record, I don’t get a dime for my time and effort on this blog – not that I want to. This is to try and provide balance in a profession that has all but disavowed its integrity.)

    Treehugger said: …people like you get a little humble and bite your tongue when you want to lash out and say how it is not like that anymore so they should just get over it!!!!!!! Do you think you would say to victims of the holocaust, apartheid or various other atrocities – just get over it because you did not live through it?
    Both sides must put an end to racism and racist thoughts.

    – While this was directed to Carly, I must say that you always choose to fight those in opposition to you rather than accept that Lowery was mistaken in his comments. When you can stand up to those on your own side when they are wrong, then your character will truly be measured. And, honestly, when will anyone in our give-me, provide-for-me, don’t-judge-me society just get over it? Never, Treehugger. The nation’s very existence is often reduced to a pity party for how the citizens have been wronged from everything from racism to the struggling economy. I don’t make excuses.

    And, Bill W., I will take you as my sandbar any day brother.

  31. 31 Tree Hugger
    January 22, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Willie – thank you so much for your wonderful posts. I enjoyed them very much.

  32. 32 Tree Hugger
    January 22, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Carly said

    We have black professional athletes and coaches, actors and actresses, etc. How are black people being HELD BACK?

    We’ve elected our first so-called black President, but now THAT’S not good enough

    What will it take Total Black Domination??

    Getting revenge on the white people living now who had NOTHING to do with slaves and making us the slave?

    but I doubt that any of them feel personally suppressed.

    Let’s not forget who freed the slaves….a “white man

    Response – Yes Carly, I do think I have you figured out. Thank you.

  33. 33 Tree Hugger
    January 22, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Josh said – I agree with you here. While I am not happy that Obama is the president, I do recognize the historical significance of the moment in our nation’s history and I am proud that race, at least for me, has never played a role in my view of the world and appears to be a non-issue. It is, I believe, a great and final step toward equality in the U.S.

    Response – Thank you for answering my initial question. My initial post was asking why out of all the things there were to write about that day you focused on that one negative thing. If you had mentioned anything positive in your post like you just answered me above I may have had a different reaction to it.

    I understand that you may not be happy that Obama is President just like I was not happy with Bush but alot of your posts sound to me like hate and contempt for the man. It is like it is your mission to tear him down on any little thing. Is there nothing you can see good in him. Even I could find good things about Bush. Maybe you are not truly the way that I imagine you to be but your writings give me this impression. Sorry if I am wrong.

    Respectfully,

    Tree

  34. January 22, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but Treehugger is starting to get on my nerves…

    Which is exactly what he/she wants….( I suspect a “Lily white female” )

    Carly, I have a tear in my eye right now. I’m so proud of you!!!

  35. January 23, 2009 at 4:25 am

    On a lighter note…

    I would like to comment on my very baby sister and her husband, whom is also, Army attached, on the birth of their third baby girl. A beautiful, baby girl.

    Completely oblivious to all this political/racial nonsense, let’s hope it stays that way.

    With a dimple in her chin, a beefy little girl, she is so ‘layed back’, we have to wake her up to feed her.

    We should all follow her lead…….

  36. 36 Carly
    January 23, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Congratulations, Kate! What a true blessing!

    Please thank your Brother-in-Law for his service!

  37. 37 Tree Hugger
    January 23, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Oh so sorry Kate! I thought this blog comment area was where you could voice your opinions. Didn’t know that I should only post what YOU want to hear. Usually I don’t comment on Josh’s ridiculous rants but on this issue I take a stand.

  38. 38 Anna Frielman
    January 25, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Tree, I thought you didn’t have time for pettiness? -“Do you think I have time to write about every single thing that he could have chosen besides the small minute negative aspect that he chose?

  39. 39 Tree Hugger
    January 26, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Right Anna – but looks like you do! 🙂


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